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Author Topic: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?  (Read 21349 times)

OhLaLa

  • Joined Sep 2010
Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2010, 09:38:02 am »
Fab info guys, thanks so much for taking the time, really learning loads from you. I can see where I went wrong with the first one. Does the job but think it might be due an extension in the spring. Loving seeing your pics.

Something new has been mentioned in your posts which I've not come across though: tup proof shelters and thwacking??

 :sheep:  :wave:


morri2

  • Joined Jun 2008
Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2010, 02:54:13 pm »
Look forward to seeing a picture of your finished sheep shelter on here!!  Good luck! 

humphreymctush

  • Joined Jul 2010
  • orkney
Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2010, 05:22:15 pm »
my sheep have no shelter either. Here in orkney most of the rain is horizontal so I have nailed some roofing sheet on the fence facing north and west. North is the coldest and west is the wetest so they can sleep behing it

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
    • ScotHebs
Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2010, 06:19:05 pm »
Tup proof shelters - tups like to smack their heads against anything solid, especially those with horns.  This quickly destroys shelters, vehicles, fences etc.  So a tup proof shelter is one designed to reduce or slow down the amount of damage they can do (as with wrapping the whole thing in fence mesh).  Thwacking is just the noise it makes when they hit their heads against something they find satisfying  ;D  It can help to have a post specially for them to thwack against.
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OhLaLa

  • Joined Sep 2010
Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2010, 06:32:24 pm »
Fleecewife - what would I do without you? I didn't know about either of those antics. Guess I just haven't reached that page in any of my books yet.  :-\

Again, thanks so much.

 :-*

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
    • ScotHebs
Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2010, 11:55:09 am »
Maybe you will be lucky and your tups will be well behaved.  I keep big bad boys  :o ;D
"Let's not talk about what we can do, but do what we can"

There is NO planet B - what are YOU doing to save our home?

Do something today that your future self will thank you for - plant a tree

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OhLaLa

  • Joined Sep 2010
Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2010, 12:16:56 pm »
All girls at the moment but when ram arrives he will be a Suffolk Black, so thankfully no horns.

I had better give making a thwacking post a bit of thought, I can't think of anything that will stay up once the ground softens up like it is.

 :sheep:   ::)

Elissian

  • Joined Oct 2009
  • Wiltshire
Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2010, 07:24:39 pm »
Not trying to put a damper on things but i was always told that sheep should not have shelters. Aparently it encourages them to sleep in one place thus encouraging pests. i presume you take the shelter away in the summer as flystrike would be a problem.
sheep have warm coats so they don't need protection. I'm not that experienced so am only going by my local sheep farmers advice.

Brucklay

  • Joined Apr 2010
  • Perthshire
    • Brucklay Pygmy Goats
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Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2010, 08:20:33 pm »
OH build this for our sheep this winter - can't find the pic with the sheep playing around it - design with Anerdeenshire wind in mind - on my old downhill ski's so I can tow it about - but the proof is in the pudding and I've seen them about it more on sunny days than horrid ones!! Guess they must be true Aberdeenshire sheep - only joking we do get nice weather too
Pygmy Goats, Shetland Sheep, Zip & Indie the Border Collies, BeeBee the cat and a wreak of a building to renovate!!

andywalt

  • Joined Aug 2010
  • kent
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Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2010, 08:30:09 pm »
It looks like the alians have landed, very modern, did he make it himself (clever bloke) or does it come flat pack?
Suffolk x romneys and Texel X with Romney Tup, Shetlands and Southdown Tup

Brucklay

  • Joined Apr 2010
  • Perthshire
    • Brucklay Pygmy Goats
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Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2010, 08:35:42 pm »
All his own handywork!! with of course encouragement from me - it all started with dome homes - timber kits built in the us as homes - we thought of doing one but ended up doing our stone cottage. So this has been his first excuse to give it a go - and the maths works - unbelievably stable for timber triangles and ply (85 felt triangles still to be fixed)
Pygmy Goats, Shetland Sheep, Zip & Indie the Border Collies, BeeBee the cat and a wreak of a building to renovate!!

andywalt

  • Joined Aug 2010
  • kent
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Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2010, 08:39:20 pm »
impressed
Suffolk x romneys and Texel X with Romney Tup, Shetlands and Southdown Tup

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
    • ScotHebs
Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2010, 12:25:28 am »
Not trying to put a damper on things but i was always told that sheep should not have shelters. Aparently it encourages them to sleep in one place thus encouraging pests. i presume you take the shelter away in the summer as flystrike would be a problem.
sheep have warm coats so they don't need protection. I'm not that experienced so am only going by my local sheep farmers advice.
I can't agree with that.  This spring we saw many lambs die (other people's) because they were without shelter in their fields, when the weather was lashing sleet and snow. Round here most fields have simple stob and wire/mesh fences, so they provide no shelter either, and there are few trees. On a large scale it would be difficult to provide artificial shelters, but on a small scale it works well.  We have seen no increase in pests or flystrike - if flies concentrated in the shelters then the sheep would not use them. .  The shelters are used against rain, blizzards, wind and hot sun (on the odd occasion we get any) but when it is deeply cold but dry they are outside enjoying some of their favourite conditions.  The only drawback is that the entrances can become muddy, which is not good for feet.  But sheep will all sleep in the same place anyway, whether they have shelters or not. With built shelters, they can be strawed and mucked out like any other housing and the muck composted to use in the veg garden.
The wildest sheep of all - Soays - on their native island, take shelter in the old stone seabird-drying huts, which are dotted all around the island.
Although many breeds of sheep do have thick woolly coats, they are shorn off each spring, often before the weather has realised it's spring, so they can be very cold.  On the other hand, it can be very hot before shearing so then sheep in full fleece need shelter from the heat.
Sheep are perfectly intelligent enough to decide for themsleves if they need to use their shelters or not, so no, we don't remove them in the summer.

"Let's not talk about what we can do, but do what we can"

There is NO planet B - what are YOU doing to save our home?

Do something today that your future self will thank you for - plant a tree

 Love your soil - it's the lifeblood of your land.

Elissian

  • Joined Oct 2009
  • Wiltshire
Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2010, 06:47:05 pm »
fair enough, I've only got advice from the big farmers and i suppose they have a different outlook. Basically laughed at my question as to whether i should provide shelter, said what did i think the fleece was for.
I do have hedges surrounding all my fields and large trees and i do live in wiltshire so it's not a problem for me but one of said farmers farms in north yorkshire so i took him at his word. Wasn't trying to be argumentative  :)

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
    • ScotHebs
Re: Sheep shelters: Pics, and what floor?
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2010, 11:58:40 pm »
It's a good point to discuss though.  As with most topics, there is never just one answer. Some farmers house their sheep through the winter and lamb indoors, others run them on the hill year round with only rocks and other natural features to use as shelter.  There might be differences in losses from each system.  Many commercial sheep raisers expect lamb losses which for us would be catastrophic - we usually lose between none and one lamb each year and I think our chosen breeds and the shelters we provide help to keep our losses so low.
Smallholders are in a unique position to farm their animals with a bit of extra care.  As I said before, it's difficult if not impossible to provide outdoor shelters for very large flocks, but I think it could be that sheer numbers will provide protection and shelter to some extent. But this does mean that advice from large scale breeders does not always translate to small systems  :sheep:
"Let's not talk about what we can do, but do what we can"

There is NO planet B - what are YOU doing to save our home?

Do something today that your future self will thank you for - plant a tree

 Love your soil - it's the lifeblood of your land.

 

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